Dark Moon Magick

[mtpathy]

Originally Posted by Darbla

You know, you've got a point here. The same side of the moon is always facing us. Its position in relation to the Earth and the sun is what makes its phases. And since the sun is actually what gives the moon its light, then maybe any powers or energies we attribute to the moon are really sun energies?

Darbla

not really where i was trying to take that point, however another poster stated it rather well when they said its all about universal truth, and that universal truth is defined by the individual.
now why would one attempt to define the terms "universal" or "truth" when trying to associate things outside of themselves to a personel ideology of right or wrong?
which goes into my previous comment, the cycle of the moons phases are nothing more then the moons relation in position too the sun and earth.
why do people have the tendency of only looking towards a mystical or religious explanation for these things, when these things have no significants other then the ones we place onto them, when a psycholgical and sociological explanation would be more plausable?

[~Elise~]

Why do people want to remove the Mystery out of the Universe and break it down to only science?

Thing is--they are finding more and more that the Mystery and Science are closer than one would think.

Using a moon phase to conduct different types of magic has been around for centuries. *gasp*

Oh my--Farmers Almanac uses moon phases to help farmers with when to plant crops-must stop that. Fisherman use moon phases to fish...can't be 'anything' to that.

Must be 'something' to it or people in ALL phases and walks of life wouldn't be paying attention to what phase the moon is in--not just mystical explainations.

Could it possibly be that there is more to Universe than meets the eye?

[~Owl~]

Originally Posted by mtpathy

another poster stated it rather well when they said its all about universal truth, and that universal truth is defined by the individual.

That would be me.

Now why would one attempt to define the terms "universal" or "truth" when trying to associate things outside of themselves to a personel ideology of right or wrong?
which goes into my previous comment, the cycle of the moons phases are nothing more then the moons relation in position too the sun and earth.
why do people have the tendency of only looking towards a mystical or religious explanation for these things, when these things have no significants other then the ones we place onto them, when a psycholgical and sociological explanation would be more plausable?

Would you be my Mentor?

[~Owl~]

Originally Posted by pearls59

...without Dark there can be no Light. Dark Moon is a wonderful time to get in touch with your Shadow Side.

...Dark is not a time to fear--Dark is a time to embrace, a time to cuddle, a time to refresh/recharge yourself-a time to wrestle under the covers with either your lover or what it is that 'goes bump in the night' for you.



Elise

Well said, Elise.

[Theres]

how can any individually defined 'truth' be universal?

[Teresa]

Originally Posted by Theres

how can any individually defined 'truth' be universal?

Perhaps because they tend to share some commonalities is the only answer that I can come up with.

I do not fear using the Dark Moon personally and find it just as useful as full moons and the other phases. The phases to me are just Balance, IMO.

[maverick9750]

I think the reason it is so contraversial is because using dark moon energy has potentially destructive aspects if not used carefully, and its a slippery slope. once a person discovers that they can use the power of the dark moon to say banish someone from thier life, they can tend to just do that instead of trying to find a way to get along with the person, and just take the easy way out. but power corrupts, and it takes a very wise careful person to use that type of energy correctly. therefore I think quite a few paths say (at least in the beginning) to not use it. just like how in martial arts they won't teach you truely destuctive techniques until they have already taught you the discipline to not use them uinless absolutely nessecary.

[~Owl~]

Originally Posted by Theres

how can any individually defined 'truth' be universal?

Exactly.

(If I could just see the look on your face right now, LOL)

Seriously it's a good question to ask. I think Shalaye summed it up pretty well.

[skilly-nilly]

Originally Posted by peggyelizabeth

huh.
This is interesting stuff (which was why I bumped it in the first place)
The beliefs surrounding the full moon seem pretty universal, but the thoughts on the dark are so varied, anyone know why?

My son's opinion (which I think has merit) is that it's a zero theory. The 'invention' (maybe concept is a better word) of zero is far more modern than the invertion of numerals. And has, as a concept, been hotly debated. The idea is that a 'nothing of something' is coceptually far more abstract than any number of somethings. So the (perceptual) absence of the Moon is more difficult to interpert than the Light of the Moon.


There's also the biological aspect--we humans are diurnal (nothing to do with when we sleep, everything to do with the construction of our eyes) and so, particularly in the absence of artificial light, find darkness intimidating.
Many predators are nocturnal, adding in a collective-unconscious perception of danger.

Originally Posted by Darbla

You know, you've got a point here. The same side of the moon is always facing us. Its position in relation to the Earth and the sun is what makes its phases. And since the sun is actually what gives the moon its light, then maybe any powers or energies we attribute to the moon are really sun energies?

Darbla

Originally Posted by mtpathy

which goes into my previous comment, the cycle of the moons phases are nothing more then the moons relation in position too the sun and earth.
why do people have the tendency of only looking towards a mystical or religious explanation for these things, when these things have no significants other then the ones we place onto them, when a psycholgical and sociological explanation would be more plausable?

Originally Posted by pearls59

Why do people want to remove the Mystery out of the Universe and break it down to only science??

Strictly speaking, ALL of the energy on the surface of the Earth comes from the Sun--the light, the movement of the air, the growing things. Only geo-thermal energy is 'Earth' energy.

I think that it's necessary to use a perceptual paradox---the Magical Energies of the Moon don't have much of anything to do with the big rock in the sky.

For example, I see the shadows of the Full Moon as a sweet face which gives me a Personification of the Spirit of the Full Moon. But I only see that face when I am actually looking at the Moon Herself---if I see a photo of the Moon, I see a pattern of meres, that's all.

So, for me, this is an example of how the actual face-to-face communication is 'different' from what the scientific perception shows.

[~Elise~]

Tides-have we forgotten those? Movement influenced directly by the Moon.

Just sayin'

Elise